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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Elena. Thank you for reading my blog and commenting. No, I am not a teacher by profession, but I feel I am meant to be a teacher. So I teach whenever I can, whenever someone will listen.

I already have the olive oil, garlic and sea salt, so no need to bring that :) I also have butter (both cultured and not), bacon grease and coconut oil. Yum!

I&#039;m glad you liked the video. If your heart is in it, you should make your own video. It&#039;s a lot of fun, and more interesting than a slide show. And it&#039;s not too hard if you have editing software. 

Best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Elena. Thank you for reading my blog and commenting. No, I am not a teacher by profession, but I feel I am meant to be a teacher. So I teach whenever I can, whenever someone will listen.</p>
<p>I already have the olive oil, garlic and sea salt, so no need to bring that <img src='http://openmindrequired.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I also have butter (both cultured and not), bacon grease and coconut oil. Yum!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you liked the video. If your heart is in it, you should make your own video. It&#8217;s a lot of fun, and more interesting than a slide show. And it&#8217;s not too hard if you have editing software. </p>
<p>Best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Elena Manrique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Elena Manrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joanne I found your video absolutely lovely, it was phylantropic, educational, enlightening! you have a great personality too. Are you a teacher?
This is Elena Manrique 51 year old general physician from Mexico City and certified by Inflammation Research Foundation from Boston Mass, and Instituto para la investigación de la inflamación, Guadalajara Mex. It is the Zone Diet, and I am doing a research in all these topics for my intention is to have an educational CD for my patients and my doctor friend´s patients. All you showed in your table was so yammy!!. If I were invited to dinner with you the only thing I´d bring is olive oil and garlic and a bit of sea salt. Also of the omega 3 I´d bring you the omega 3 from Barry Sears (www.ifos.org) for other trademarks (I do not know about the one you bought) have mercury, PCBs, Dioxines and Araquidonic Acid, and better stay away from those.
I just loooved all the stuff in your table, specially Shitake mushrooms that I found out (50 Secrets from the Longest Lived People- by Sally Beare) that is for immune boosting. It was very brave and loving of you to do such a video. I was thinking in doing just slides but maybe I´d dare to do a video like yours.
I want to share with you my best choices in the web that are: www.drmercola.com and www.ultrawellness.com (Dr. Mercola´s and Dr. Hayman´s) they are so much of this anti-inflammatory medicine, recently there was a Meridian Tapping TEchnique summit for treating aaall kinds of traumas and stress, so good an impact on my level of stress ans suffering, amazing.
Ok Joanne thanks again for having posted your video, you transcended in my life and also on what I will do for the better, now after I saw it.
A big hug, Elena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joanne I found your video absolutely lovely, it was phylantropic, educational, enlightening! you have a great personality too. Are you a teacher?<br />
This is Elena Manrique 51 year old general physician from Mexico City and certified by Inflammation Research Foundation from Boston Mass, and Instituto para la investigación de la inflamación, Guadalajara Mex. It is the Zone Diet, and I am doing a research in all these topics for my intention is to have an educational CD for my patients and my doctor friend´s patients. All you showed in your table was so yammy!!. If I were invited to dinner with you the only thing I´d bring is olive oil and garlic and a bit of sea salt. Also of the omega 3 I´d bring you the omega 3 from Barry Sears (www.ifos.org) for other trademarks (I do not know about the one you bought) have mercury, PCBs, Dioxines and Araquidonic Acid, and better stay away from those.<br />
I just loooved all the stuff in your table, specially Shitake mushrooms that I found out (50 Secrets from the Longest Lived People- by Sally Beare) that is for immune boosting. It was very brave and loving of you to do such a video. I was thinking in doing just slides but maybe I´d dare to do a video like yours.<br />
I want to share with you my best choices in the web that are: <a href="http://www.drmercola.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.drmercola.com</a> and <a href="http://www.ultrawellness.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ultrawellness.com</a> (Dr. Mercola´s and Dr. Hayman´s) they are so much of this anti-inflammatory medicine, recently there was a Meridian Tapping TEchnique summit for treating aaall kinds of traumas and stress, so good an impact on my level of stress ans suffering, amazing.<br />
Ok Joanne thanks again for having posted your video, you transcended in my life and also on what I will do for the better, now after I saw it.<br />
A big hug, Elena.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley, I haven&#039;t found success with it because it was too hard to follow. Despite believing in raw food as the ultimate diet, I was never able to adhere to it. It took you 9 years to get on the diet. Most people will never be able to follow this diet, which means it&#039;s not a realistic diet for the human species.

My advice to you is to read up on vegan nutritional deficiencies, and make sure you supplement accordingly. You&#039;re going to feel great for a while from just getting off processed foods and coffee, but over time you may suffer from nutritional deficiencies. If you run out of B12, you can cause damage that will take years to recover from. 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and I hope you stick around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, I haven&#8217;t found success with it because it was too hard to follow. Despite believing in raw food as the ultimate diet, I was never able to adhere to it. It took you 9 years to get on the diet. Most people will never be able to follow this diet, which means it&#8217;s not a realistic diet for the human species.</p>
<p>My advice to you is to read up on vegan nutritional deficiencies, and make sure you supplement accordingly. You&#8217;re going to feel great for a while from just getting off processed foods and coffee, but over time you may suffer from nutritional deficiencies. If you run out of B12, you can cause damage that will take years to recover from. </p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and I hope you stick around.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Joanne,

You only tried the raw vegan diet for 5 days.  You say  you haven&#039;t &quot;found success, health or vibrancy of life with their recommended raw plant diet.&quot;  But girl, you&#039;ve only given it 5 days!  You&#039;ve gotta stick with it longer than that.  I&#039;m into my seventh month on this diet and I would say that the good results (all that stuff you read about on the internet) didn&#039;t start pouring in until the third month.  The first six weeks were difficult.  My body definitely went thru detox.  I had cravings.  It was not easy.  But now, are you kidding?  I would never go back.  I get little flashes and glimpses of how I used to feel, before switching to this diet - I&#039;ll suddenly remember how tired I used to feel for no reason sometimes, or how I used to feel sad and anxious for no reason, and often struggled for energy.  I was addicted to caffeine.  I would feel really, really awful if I didn&#039;t eat clockwork regular meals - I definitely think I had some blood sugar issues going on.  But now, all of that is gone.  Now I will suddenly feel happy and optimistic for no reason, instead of tired and depressed.

I appreciate your site, I just can&#039;t take seriously your dismissal of raw veganism when I feel like you haven&#039;t yet given it a serious shot.  Do you know it took me six or seven attempts before this?  I&#039;ve tried to go raw since I was 25, and it didn&#039;t actually work til I was 34.   I wasn&#039;t ready to give up certain aspects of my life - big, cooked starch meals, alcohol, refined sugar treats, caffeine, etc.  Finally I was ready, and I couldn&#039;t be happier with the way it is unfolding for me.

Try again!  Don&#039;t give up!  I can promise you it is so, so worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Joanne,</p>
<p>You only tried the raw vegan diet for 5 days.  You say  you haven&#8217;t &#8220;found success, health or vibrancy of life with their recommended raw plant diet.&#8221;  But girl, you&#8217;ve only given it 5 days!  You&#8217;ve gotta stick with it longer than that.  I&#8217;m into my seventh month on this diet and I would say that the good results (all that stuff you read about on the internet) didn&#8217;t start pouring in until the third month.  The first six weeks were difficult.  My body definitely went thru detox.  I had cravings.  It was not easy.  But now, are you kidding?  I would never go back.  I get little flashes and glimpses of how I used to feel, before switching to this diet &#8211; I&#8217;ll suddenly remember how tired I used to feel for no reason sometimes, or how I used to feel sad and anxious for no reason, and often struggled for energy.  I was addicted to caffeine.  I would feel really, really awful if I didn&#8217;t eat clockwork regular meals &#8211; I definitely think I had some blood sugar issues going on.  But now, all of that is gone.  Now I will suddenly feel happy and optimistic for no reason, instead of tired and depressed.</p>
<p>I appreciate your site, I just can&#8217;t take seriously your dismissal of raw veganism when I feel like you haven&#8217;t yet given it a serious shot.  Do you know it took me six or seven attempts before this?  I&#8217;ve tried to go raw since I was 25, and it didn&#8217;t actually work til I was 34.   I wasn&#8217;t ready to give up certain aspects of my life &#8211; big, cooked starch meals, alcohol, refined sugar treats, caffeine, etc.  Finally I was ready, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier with the way it is unfolding for me.</p>
<p>Try again!  Don&#8217;t give up!  I can promise you it is so, so worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenny D</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2009/06/switching-from-raw-vegan-diet-to-the-paleolithic-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-2441</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenny D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys might be interested in Stephen Guyenet&#039;s blog. It&#039;s a treasure trove of info:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/

Chris Masterjohn is also good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys might be interested in Stephen Guyenet&#8217;s blog. It&#8217;s a treasure trove of info:</p>
<p><a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Chris Masterjohn is also good.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2009/06/switching-from-raw-vegan-diet-to-the-paleolithic-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-2316</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as &quot;advancement disdain&quot; is concerned, you&#039;re operating from the assumption that what we&#039;ve been doing for the last several thousand years IS &quot;advancement.&quot;  I invite you to take a serious look at how our modern cultures, economies, and technologies are constructed and consider what would happen if a major disaster occurred and these all disappeared overnight.  Hurricane Katrina was instructive.  Meanwhile, a supervolcano went off several hundred thousand years ago and is thought to have caused a bottleneck in human evolution, as human beings existed at the time and were greatly impacted by the resulting climate change.  But--and here&#039;s the important thing--&lt;i&gt;they DID survive.&lt;/i&gt;  Would we?  I have good reason to doubt it.  Most of us in the developed world lack any more than rudimentary cooking skills (I include myself in that number), cannot build a shelter, and cannot identify edible wild plants.  We&#039;d be screwed.  (Again, I include myself.)  I cannot term that state of affairs an &quot;advancement&quot; regardless of how many pretty gadgets it has produced.  It&#039;s all well and good to say we &quot;don&#039;t need&quot; to know those things thanks to specialization, but that&#039;s all academic to someone faced with surviving on their own because the social support systems have broken down.  We owe it to ourselves to drop the cult mentality about &quot;progress,&quot; especially with all the other obvious costs we have paid to our detriment which you have also mentioned.

The Inuit and Maasai go zero-carb and are none the worse for it.  I&#039;m suspicious that all that acid-alkaline talk means basically nothing.  We get ridiculous amounts of minerals from animal foods.  I think we do well with some plant food because we&#039;re non-obligate carnivores, like dogs, who can also eat plant foods and benefit from them.  (Probably why they were one of the first animals we domesticated--we relate well to them on several levels.)  Primates, after all, originated as insectivores.  &quot;Insectivore&quot; is a somewhat archaic phrase from a time when the definition of &quot;meat&quot; meant &quot;food from a critter on the hoof,&quot; which is why the Catholic Church allows fish consumption during Lent.  We can &lt;i&gt;get away&lt;/i&gt; with eating plants, but we don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as &#8220;advancement disdain&#8221; is concerned, you&#8217;re operating from the assumption that what we&#8217;ve been doing for the last several thousand years IS &#8220;advancement.&#8221;  I invite you to take a serious look at how our modern cultures, economies, and technologies are constructed and consider what would happen if a major disaster occurred and these all disappeared overnight.  Hurricane Katrina was instructive.  Meanwhile, a supervolcano went off several hundred thousand years ago and is thought to have caused a bottleneck in human evolution, as human beings existed at the time and were greatly impacted by the resulting climate change.  But&#8211;and here&#8217;s the important thing&#8211;<i>they DID survive.</i>  Would we?  I have good reason to doubt it.  Most of us in the developed world lack any more than rudimentary cooking skills (I include myself in that number), cannot build a shelter, and cannot identify edible wild plants.  We&#8217;d be screwed.  (Again, I include myself.)  I cannot term that state of affairs an &#8220;advancement&#8221; regardless of how many pretty gadgets it has produced.  It&#8217;s all well and good to say we &#8220;don&#8217;t need&#8221; to know those things thanks to specialization, but that&#8217;s all academic to someone faced with surviving on their own because the social support systems have broken down.  We owe it to ourselves to drop the cult mentality about &#8220;progress,&#8221; especially with all the other obvious costs we have paid to our detriment which you have also mentioned.</p>
<p>The Inuit and Maasai go zero-carb and are none the worse for it.  I&#8217;m suspicious that all that acid-alkaline talk means basically nothing.  We get ridiculous amounts of minerals from animal foods.  I think we do well with some plant food because we&#8217;re non-obligate carnivores, like dogs, who can also eat plant foods and benefit from them.  (Probably why they were one of the first animals we domesticated&#8211;we relate well to them on several levels.)  Primates, after all, originated as insectivores.  &#8220;Insectivore&#8221; is a somewhat archaic phrase from a time when the definition of &#8220;meat&#8221; meant &#8220;food from a critter on the hoof,&#8221; which is why the Catholic Church allows fish consumption during Lent.  We can <i>get away</i> with eating plants, but we don&#8217;t <i>need</i> them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2009/06/switching-from-raw-vegan-diet-to-the-paleolithic-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-2243</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think going zero-carb would be a mistake, if by carb you mean all plant matter. We need the alkaline minerals and other nutrients found in plants. A salad provides very few carbs but a load of nutrient. If by carbs you mean grain products, then I&#039;m right there with you. However, many of the villages Weston Price visited often relied on some sort of grains locally grown as an energy source, and the people were none the worse. As you say, it was the white man&#039;s food that did them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think going zero-carb would be a mistake, if by carb you mean all plant matter. We need the alkaline minerals and other nutrients found in plants. A salad provides very few carbs but a load of nutrient. If by carbs you mean grain products, then I&#8217;m right there with you. However, many of the villages Weston Price visited often relied on some sort of grains locally grown as an energy source, and the people were none the worse. As you say, it was the white man&#8217;s food that did them in.</p>
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		<title>By: damaged justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>damaged justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My goal isn’t to join a trend and subscribe to or promote a specific diet. My goal is to get healthy, have energy, and find my optimum weight &lt;/i&gt;

Likewise! I&#039;m finding myself trending toward zero-carb (though I probably won&#039;t go all-meat unless I have to for medical reasons), because every traditional native diet seems to have resulted in no significant health problems until the natives started eating &quot;white man&#039;s food&quot; (refined carbs/sugars)...and the more fat and meat they ate, and the less of everything else, the healthier they tended to be.

Emergefit:

&lt;i&gt;I struggle with [Paleo/Primal] as a concept, inasmuch as the concept itself suggests that the last 100,000 years or so of advancement in intelligence, business, agriculture, science, and technology are all for not. &lt;/i&gt;

Naught necessarily :) Agriculture was the root of a great deal of progress, but it also caused a demonstrable decline in human health. As Ken Kesey said, we should &quot;take what [we] can use, and let the rest go by.&quot; Something isn&#039;t good/bad just because it&#039;s old/new!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My goal isn’t to join a trend and subscribe to or promote a specific diet. My goal is to get healthy, have energy, and find my optimum weight </i></p>
<p>Likewise! I&#8217;m finding myself trending toward zero-carb (though I probably won&#8217;t go all-meat unless I have to for medical reasons), because every traditional native diet seems to have resulted in no significant health problems until the natives started eating &#8220;white man&#8217;s food&#8221; (refined carbs/sugars)&#8230;and the more fat and meat they ate, and the less of everything else, the healthier they tended to be.</p>
<p>Emergefit:</p>
<p><i>I struggle with [Paleo/Primal] as a concept, inasmuch as the concept itself suggests that the last 100,000 years or so of advancement in intelligence, business, agriculture, science, and technology are all for not. </i></p>
<p>Naught necessarily <img src='http://openmindrequired.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Agriculture was the root of a great deal of progress, but it also caused a demonstrable decline in human health. As Ken Kesey said, we should &#8220;take what [we] can use, and let the rest go by.&#8221; Something isn&#8217;t good/bad just because it&#8217;s old/new!</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2009/06/switching-from-raw-vegan-diet-to-the-paleolithic-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-2225</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Chris. Thanks for chiming in. 

Our current food system does just what you say: deliver calories without nutrient. But then even home-based cooked meals could be problematic for many if we follow the USDA recommendations found in their food pyramid, which lists grains as the predominent energy source.

For two million years our species relied protein and fat for energy, and now, thanks to modern agriculture, it&#039;s refined carbohydrates. And this switch has allowed our species to expand with few controls, but the heavy reliance on grains has caused its own set of problems.

Working at the restaurant, I was annoyed at how many dishes had pasta or bread in them. Every soup de jour contained a variation of pasta. But this can&#039;t compare to going out to dinner as a raw vegan, and certainly not as an 80/10/10er. where most of the menu items are verboten. 

If we stuck to plants for energy, we&#039;d either be eating a lot of them all day, or we&#039;d have to eat high-caloric plants, such as starches. If we remove such tubers and grains from our diet, where will we get the calories? From fats, which are found in nuts/seeds and/or meat. So the raw vegan eats lots of nuts. The paleo eats meat and nuts. One choice diverges from our ancestral diet. 

My goal isn&#039;t to join a trend and subscribe to or promote a specific diet. My goal is to get healthy, have energy, and find my optimum weight and teach others how to do that. The best way to describe the diet I&#039;m on right now is to call it what others call it: the paleo diet. So far, it&#039;s the only diet I&#039;ve been able to adhere to with any success.

Would you please elaborate on your statement: &quot;The name alone [paleo] has something in common with other fads&quot;? And which features do you believe are overplayed?

From reading several blogs on paleo, it seems oils and fats are the key difference between the paleo diet and other diets. So that&#039;s going to be my next subject of study. Ironically, the book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/dp/0920470386/?tag=opeminreq-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill&lt;/a&gt; was one of the first books I ever read on health, and one I found so fascinating that I got hooked into learning about health. I had been reading only fiction up to that point and using Wesson oil, which I immediately threw out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Chris. Thanks for chiming in. </p>
<p>Our current food system does just what you say: deliver calories without nutrient. But then even home-based cooked meals could be problematic for many if we follow the USDA recommendations found in their food pyramid, which lists grains as the predominent energy source.</p>
<p>For two million years our species relied protein and fat for energy, and now, thanks to modern agriculture, it&#8217;s refined carbohydrates. And this switch has allowed our species to expand with few controls, but the heavy reliance on grains has caused its own set of problems.</p>
<p>Working at the restaurant, I was annoyed at how many dishes had pasta or bread in them. Every soup de jour contained a variation of pasta. But this can&#8217;t compare to going out to dinner as a raw vegan, and certainly not as an 80/10/10er. where most of the menu items are verboten. </p>
<p>If we stuck to plants for energy, we&#8217;d either be eating a lot of them all day, or we&#8217;d have to eat high-caloric plants, such as starches. If we remove such tubers and grains from our diet, where will we get the calories? From fats, which are found in nuts/seeds and/or meat. So the raw vegan eats lots of nuts. The paleo eats meat and nuts. One choice diverges from our ancestral diet. </p>
<p>My goal isn&#8217;t to join a trend and subscribe to or promote a specific diet. My goal is to get healthy, have energy, and find my optimum weight and teach others how to do that. The best way to describe the diet I&#8217;m on right now is to call it what others call it: the paleo diet. So far, it&#8217;s the only diet I&#8217;ve been able to adhere to with any success.</p>
<p>Would you please elaborate on your statement: &#8220;The name alone [paleo] has something in common with other fads&#8221;? And which features do you believe are overplayed?</p>
<p>From reading several blogs on paleo, it seems oils and fats are the key difference between the paleo diet and other diets. So that&#8217;s going to be my next subject of study. Ironically, the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0920470386/?tag=opeminreq-20" rel="nofollow">Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill</a> was one of the first books I ever read on health, and one I found so fascinating that I got hooked into learning about health. I had been reading only fiction up to that point and using Wesson oil, which I immediately threw out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2009/06/switching-from-raw-vegan-diet-to-the-paleolithic-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-2224</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Joanne,
&#039;The Paleo Diet&#039; - it is catchy isn&#039;t it? I agree wholeheartedly  with the argument that no particular regime of eating can ever be regarded as &#039;optimal&#039;. The Paleo thing is something that I intend to look into in greater deatil soon. My present understanding is very &#039;thumbnail&#039; just yet. 
For all I recognise favourable properties within the Paleo regime I do still harbour some doubts. For sure, I acknowledge the importance of evolution in determining what is good for us, and I regard the process of change within diets to arrive at the typical western diet as a process of &#039;evolution&#039;. That is; a series of changes over time, often changes are dependent upon preceding events and changes, and that result in marked changes when judged over longer periods. 
I agree the &#039;Paleo&#039; regime does make some sense, but I think some features may be overplayed by the proponents. And I am not sure if the concept wholly encourages understanding. 
Lots of vegetables and fruit make sense, and I think there is merit in thinking that &#039;green leafy things&#039; (greener and leafier that iceberg lettuce, if possible) are important. Keyword; diversity.
Protein from animal sources makes sense too, but I think portion sizes need not be large, perhaps in the range 3-5 ozs.
The principal difference in my own thinking is that rather than directing us to what we can  eat, I think understanding should direct us to what ought to be excluded and why. 
Modern food production, including the industrialised nature of delivery, is largely based upon supplying calories, not quality or nutrients. Think about it, much of the tempting stuff on the supermarket shelves are variations on a theme of sugar, starch, or fat. That&#039;s for one reason only, these are cheap and malleable ingredients, less perishable than things that are better for us. Perishable is a problem for manufacture of &#039;industrial&#039; food products, in limits transportation, shelf life, and the potential for profit.
The &#039;Paleo&#039; is distinguished from the modern by being less reliant upon food groups that whose calories are digested and converted into blood glucose too quickly. The &#039;Paleo&#039; is generally lower in GL (glycaemic load), higher in fiber from plant matter,  higher and more diverse in nutrients than the &#039;convenient&#039;, &#039;value added&#039;, and industrialised stuff presented to us in cardboard boxes and plastics. It seems convenience is not so cheap as we thought.
I would advocate that understanding is a better thing to promote than a catchy name. The industry thrives on consumer confusion. Counter measures are needed. Faddy diet plans, that vary enormously in their validity, contribute to the confusion. So while I would advocate that many features of the &#039;Paleo&#039; are good, the name alone has something in common with other fads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Joanne,<br />
&#8216;The Paleo Diet&#8217; &#8211; it is catchy isn&#8217;t it? I agree wholeheartedly  with the argument that no particular regime of eating can ever be regarded as &#8216;optimal&#8217;. The Paleo thing is something that I intend to look into in greater deatil soon. My present understanding is very &#8216;thumbnail&#8217; just yet.<br />
For all I recognise favourable properties within the Paleo regime I do still harbour some doubts. For sure, I acknowledge the importance of evolution in determining what is good for us, and I regard the process of change within diets to arrive at the typical western diet as a process of &#8216;evolution&#8217;. That is; a series of changes over time, often changes are dependent upon preceding events and changes, and that result in marked changes when judged over longer periods.<br />
I agree the &#8216;Paleo&#8217; regime does make some sense, but I think some features may be overplayed by the proponents. And I am not sure if the concept wholly encourages understanding.<br />
Lots of vegetables and fruit make sense, and I think there is merit in thinking that &#8216;green leafy things&#8217; (greener and leafier that iceberg lettuce, if possible) are important. Keyword; diversity.<br />
Protein from animal sources makes sense too, but I think portion sizes need not be large, perhaps in the range 3-5 ozs.<br />
The principal difference in my own thinking is that rather than directing us to what we can  eat, I think understanding should direct us to what ought to be excluded and why.<br />
Modern food production, including the industrialised nature of delivery, is largely based upon supplying calories, not quality or nutrients. Think about it, much of the tempting stuff on the supermarket shelves are variations on a theme of sugar, starch, or fat. That&#8217;s for one reason only, these are cheap and malleable ingredients, less perishable than things that are better for us. Perishable is a problem for manufacture of &#8216;industrial&#8217; food products, in limits transportation, shelf life, and the potential for profit.<br />
The &#8216;Paleo&#8217; is distinguished from the modern by being less reliant upon food groups that whose calories are digested and converted into blood glucose too quickly. The &#8216;Paleo&#8217; is generally lower in GL (glycaemic load), higher in fiber from plant matter,  higher and more diverse in nutrients than the &#8216;convenient&#8217;, &#8216;value added&#8217;, and industrialised stuff presented to us in cardboard boxes and plastics. It seems convenience is not so cheap as we thought.<br />
I would advocate that understanding is a better thing to promote than a catchy name. The industry thrives on consumer confusion. Counter measures are needed. Faddy diet plans, that vary enormously in their validity, contribute to the confusion. So while I would advocate that many features of the &#8216;Paleo&#8217; are good, the name alone has something in common with other fads.</p>
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