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		<title>By: Cheryl Contemporary</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2008/09/horrible-beauty-shop-visit-with-narcissistic-hairdresser/comment-page-1/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Contemporary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these little girls with hurt little feelings (and their little boy equivalents) should wake up and learn that they work in service industries, for the purpose of serving the customers.  The first thing out of their mouths should not be a lollipop, but &quot;I&#039;m so sorry this didn&#039;t work out for you.  It must have been a communication problem.  Would you like your money back, or can we arrange to fix this somehow so you are satisfied?  We want you as a customer.&quot; Now I haven&#039;t heard anybody in a store say that for 20 years, nomatter what the dreadful stuff they have pulled on me.  So my hair stands up and I hiss like a cat. Then I start being extremely loud and unpleasant.  I had to do that today at Sears, as a matter of fact.  Long story.  But don&#039;t worry about the younger generation. They won&#039;t be around long.  Their cell phones and ipods will give them brain tumors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these little girls with hurt little feelings (and their little boy equivalents) should wake up and learn that they work in service industries, for the purpose of serving the customers.  The first thing out of their mouths should not be a lollipop, but &#8220;I&#8217;m so sorry this didn&#8217;t work out for you.  It must have been a communication problem.  Would you like your money back, or can we arrange to fix this somehow so you are satisfied?  We want you as a customer.&#8221; Now I haven&#8217;t heard anybody in a store say that for 20 years, nomatter what the dreadful stuff they have pulled on me.  So my hair stands up and I hiss like a cat. Then I start being extremely loud and unpleasant.  I had to do that today at Sears, as a matter of fact.  Long story.  But don&#8217;t worry about the younger generation. They won&#8217;t be around long.  Their cell phones and ipods will give them brain tumors.</p>
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		<title>By: Nellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was listening to a conversation in town that was commenting on the hairdresser next to Rays in Veneta and mentioned this blog site. I have my own story. I made an appointment for a perm right before Christmas. When I arrived I told the gal that I wanted a spiral perm with the biggest rods she had - the look we were going for was the Shirley Temple look. Not talking to me at all the gal proceeded to wrap my hair in tiny rods. I asked if they were the biggest ones she had and her reply was &quot;I have done lots of perms, don&#039;t worry about it.&quot; 2.5 hours later and $100,  I came out with the tiniest spiral I have ever seen. No amount of ANYTHING could get rid of it for almost a year! Needless to say I have never been back to the place. The gal really didn&#039;t listen AT ALL to what I wanted nor did she care that I wasn&#039;t that thrilled with the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to a conversation in town that was commenting on the hairdresser next to Rays in Veneta and mentioned this blog site. I have my own story. I made an appointment for a perm right before Christmas. When I arrived I told the gal that I wanted a spiral perm with the biggest rods she had &#8211; the look we were going for was the Shirley Temple look. Not talking to me at all the gal proceeded to wrap my hair in tiny rods. I asked if they were the biggest ones she had and her reply was &#8220;I have done lots of perms, don&#8217;t worry about it.&#8221; 2.5 hours later and $100,  I came out with the tiniest spiral I have ever seen. No amount of ANYTHING could get rid of it for almost a year! Needless to say I have never been back to the place. The gal really didn&#8217;t listen AT ALL to what I wanted nor did she care that I wasn&#8217;t that thrilled with the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2008/09/horrible-beauty-shop-visit-with-narcissistic-hairdresser/comment-page-1/#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Veneta is a small town where everyone knows everyone for better or worse-as I stated before-you should have left out the names. Naming names in this context could have (although it hasn&#039;t yet) interfered with  Leslie&#039;s livelihood and she already struggles. 

Yes, I believe that the post would have been  more acceptable if only general descriptions and not names were presented.

Myself-I have had hairdressers who have not talked to me or talked very little to me and then there are the ones who talk way too much. It&#039;s a crap shoot.

I have been to quite a few shops where the employees are styling their own hair and primping before the mirror. So, Leslie is not unique in this matter. I guess I would rather have a stylist who took great pride in her appearance and hope that pride transferred to me as she is working on my hair, then have an unkempt mess do it!

I understand that Leslie did try to resolve the issue with you which actually was the &quot;grown up&quot; thing to do. Were you unhappy with Leslie or the whole shop? Was it such a big deal that the owner needed involved? 
You did not like the coloring and Leslie offered to fix it. You should have given it a try, because she is an excellent beautician. Other than that there is always Judges Joe and Judy you could have taken it up with!

Not only the shop and employees but you too are responsible for the visit&#039;s outcome. So many things could have been handled differently-instead of steaming you could have started your own conversation with Leslie and who ever else was in the shop. It&#039;s a beauty salon-did you never watch Steel Magnolias? If not then do, if you have then apply some of the principles to get involved the next time.

Leslie&#039;s performance as a hair stylist does not need improvement-although I know you were unhappy with your outcome. Other so-called &quot;issues&quot; will disappear as she matures.

Sophie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Veneta is a small town where everyone knows everyone for better or worse-as I stated before-you should have left out the names. Naming names in this context could have (although it hasn&#8217;t yet) interfered with  Leslie&#8217;s livelihood and she already struggles. </p>
<p>Yes, I believe that the post would have been  more acceptable if only general descriptions and not names were presented.</p>
<p>Myself-I have had hairdressers who have not talked to me or talked very little to me and then there are the ones who talk way too much. It&#8217;s a crap shoot.</p>
<p>I have been to quite a few shops where the employees are styling their own hair and primping before the mirror. So, Leslie is not unique in this matter. I guess I would rather have a stylist who took great pride in her appearance and hope that pride transferred to me as she is working on my hair, then have an unkempt mess do it!</p>
<p>I understand that Leslie did try to resolve the issue with you which actually was the &#8220;grown up&#8221; thing to do. Were you unhappy with Leslie or the whole shop? Was it such a big deal that the owner needed involved?<br />
You did not like the coloring and Leslie offered to fix it. You should have given it a try, because she is an excellent beautician. Other than that there is always Judges Joe and Judy you could have taken it up with!</p>
<p>Not only the shop and employees but you too are responsible for the visit&#8217;s outcome. So many things could have been handled differently-instead of steaming you could have started your own conversation with Leslie and who ever else was in the shop. It&#8217;s a beauty salon-did you never watch Steel Magnolias? If not then do, if you have then apply some of the principles to get involved the next time.</p>
<p>Leslie&#8217;s performance as a hair stylist does not need improvement-although I know you were unhappy with your outcome. Other so-called &#8220;issues&#8221; will disappear as she matures.</p>
<p>Sophie</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone whose posts I have deleted, if you are able to offer a &lt;a title=&quot;1. convincing or believable by virtue of forcible, clear, or incisive presentation; telling. 2. to the point; relevant; pertinent&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cogent&lt;/a&gt; response that addresses the issues of the original post, I will incorporate your comments.

What I will not do is allow you to use my blog to offload your anger onto me and my audience. Nobody wants to read paragraph after paragraph of insults, threats and cliches. Get your own blog if you need a place to express yourself.

I understand you&#039;re upset. But attacking me doesn&#039;t resolve it. Tell me why you&#039;re upset. Tell me why you think what I posted was wrong. If you want me to hear you, present a reasonable argument with recommendations for improvement. 

Is naming names wrong in this context? Why?

Would the post have been acceptable if only general descriptions, and not names, were presented?

Is not engaging a customer in conversation acceptable behavior in a hairdresser?

Should employees indulge in personal grooming habits in a business environment?

Does a business owner have a responsibility to seek out customer complaints for resolution?

Are the shop and its employees at all responsible for the outcome of my visit? 

How can Leslie improve performance to avoid a similar situation in the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone whose posts I have deleted, if you are able to offer a <a title="1. convincing or believable by virtue of forcible, clear, or incisive presentation; telling. 2. to the point; relevant; pertinent" rel="nofollow">cogent</a> response that addresses the issues of the original post, I will incorporate your comments.</p>
<p>What I will not do is allow you to use my blog to offload your anger onto me and my audience. Nobody wants to read paragraph after paragraph of insults, threats and cliches. Get your own blog if you need a place to express yourself.</p>
<p>I understand you&#8217;re upset. But attacking me doesn&#8217;t resolve it. Tell me why you&#8217;re upset. Tell me why you think what I posted was wrong. If you want me to hear you, present a reasonable argument with recommendations for improvement. </p>
<p>Is naming names wrong in this context? Why?</p>
<p>Would the post have been acceptable if only general descriptions, and not names, were presented?</p>
<p>Is not engaging a customer in conversation acceptable behavior in a hairdresser?</p>
<p>Should employees indulge in personal grooming habits in a business environment?</p>
<p>Does a business owner have a responsibility to seek out customer complaints for resolution?</p>
<p>Are the shop and its employees at all responsible for the outcome of my visit? </p>
<p>How can Leslie improve performance to avoid a similar situation in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Most</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi Most</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear children: Grow up.  Understand that criticism is not personal.  Criticism comes from unhappy customers, and unhappy customers are created by situations, not by customers who are fundamentally &quot;messed up&quot;.  If you are unable to take responsibility for being a part of the creation of that situation, that is the very basic definition of Immaturity.

Criticism is a gift.  It allows you to know exactly how a particular customer has been disappointed by your service.  You can choose to use this information to your advantage, and become a better professional and better business person by it.

On the other hand, you can take the criticism personally, get all hot and bothered, and demonstrate to the entire world, by posting inane unreasonable comments, that you basically don&#039;t understand how the real world works and are unwilling to even think about it.

If you are interested in a successful career and the potential of ever starting or running your own business, start listening to criticism and taking it seriously.

If, however, you are only interested in living day-to-day, getting whatever job you can get just scraping by, and never even having the possibility of getting out of your home town much less accomplishing any significant goals in life... Well, then you&#039;re doing a great job with the way you&#039;re acting.

--Naomi, small business owner .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear children: Grow up.  Understand that criticism is not personal.  Criticism comes from unhappy customers, and unhappy customers are created by situations, not by customers who are fundamentally &#8220;messed up&#8221;.  If you are unable to take responsibility for being a part of the creation of that situation, that is the very basic definition of Immaturity.</p>
<p>Criticism is a gift.  It allows you to know exactly how a particular customer has been disappointed by your service.  You can choose to use this information to your advantage, and become a better professional and better business person by it.</p>
<p>On the other hand, you can take the criticism personally, get all hot and bothered, and demonstrate to the entire world, by posting inane unreasonable comments, that you basically don&#8217;t understand how the real world works and are unwilling to even think about it.</p>
<p>If you are interested in a successful career and the potential of ever starting or running your own business, start listening to criticism and taking it seriously.</p>
<p>If, however, you are only interested in living day-to-day, getting whatever job you can get just scraping by, and never even having the possibility of getting out of your home town much less accomplishing any significant goals in life&#8230; Well, then you&#8217;re doing a great job with the way you&#8217;re acting.</p>
<p>&#8211;Naomi, small business owner .</p>
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		<title>By: we r talkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>we r talkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever lady ! Your mind is messed up. I think you need meds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever lady ! Your mind is messed up. I think you need meds.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
		<link>http://openmindrequired.com/blog/2008/09/horrible-beauty-shop-visit-with-narcissistic-hairdresser/comment-page-1/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve received comments on this blog entry from a few outraged residents of Veneta. The people have called me the bitch of Veneta, a drunk, a miserable woman, whiner, terrible employer, thief, you name it. 

I have been threatened with physical harm and &lt;a title=&quot;The act of banishing or excluding. Banishment or exclusion from a group; disgrace&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ostracism&lt;/a&gt; by the town&#039;s businesses and residents. The comments have been so ugly that I deleted most of them. 

Not one person has refuted what occurred at the beauty salon. They have just objected to my publicizing it. Anonymous says I should have said something to Leslie. I did complain to her but my complaint was invalidated. I was very clear that I wouldn&#039;t talk with Leslie but that I would tell Tobie what the problem was, but Tobie never asked.

Leslie&#039;s friends were so embarrassed for Leslie that instead of just ignoring the blog post and ending it there, they forwarded it to all their friends to read.

Leslie is an employee in a business serving customers in a very personal, hands-on profession. If there&#039;s something I wrote about her behavior that her friends find embarrassing, perhaps she should amend such behavior instead of encouraging her friends to attack me.

The salon owner should realize that her shop and her employees are liable to scrutiny and public review. She should decide if the criticism is valid and do something about it or not; if the criticism is invalid, then she should ignore it or professionally refute it. But what she shouldn&#039;t do is attack me and have her husband post that I&#039;m a drunk. 

Perhaps I should have posted my review of the Veneta beauty shop in more public forums, such as search engines and directories. I think I have an even better understanding now of the ethics and mentality involved with this shop. And I definitely have first-hand knowledge of how they deal with complaints.

If I have lied or slandered someone (stating an untruth with intent to harm), please show me where and I will apologize and remove the comment. But if you&#039;re just embarrassed and lashing out under the anonymity of a computer, then you owe me an apology. 

Whether I be a bitch or drunk or whatever, there is nothing in my blog that could compare to the juvenile &lt;a title=&quot;vehement or violent denunciation, censure, or reproach&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;invective&lt;/a&gt; some of you have posted. You have threatened my physical well-being, and your ISPs are on record. 

Apparently, Veneta hosts a contingent who despise the first amendment and long for the days of public beatings and lynchings. Long live the tyranny of the crowd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve received comments on this blog entry from a few outraged residents of Veneta. The people have called me the bitch of Veneta, a drunk, a miserable woman, whiner, terrible employer, thief, you name it. </p>
<p>I have been threatened with physical harm and <a title="The act of banishing or excluding. Banishment or exclusion from a group; disgrace" rel="nofollow">ostracism</a> by the town&#8217;s businesses and residents. The comments have been so ugly that I deleted most of them. </p>
<p>Not one person has refuted what occurred at the beauty salon. They have just objected to my publicizing it. Anonymous says I should have said something to Leslie. I did complain to her but my complaint was invalidated. I was very clear that I wouldn&#8217;t talk with Leslie but that I would tell Tobie what the problem was, but Tobie never asked.</p>
<p>Leslie&#8217;s friends were so embarrassed for Leslie that instead of just ignoring the blog post and ending it there, they forwarded it to all their friends to read.</p>
<p>Leslie is an employee in a business serving customers in a very personal, hands-on profession. If there&#8217;s something I wrote about her behavior that her friends find embarrassing, perhaps she should amend such behavior instead of encouraging her friends to attack me.</p>
<p>The salon owner should realize that her shop and her employees are liable to scrutiny and public review. She should decide if the criticism is valid and do something about it or not; if the criticism is invalid, then she should ignore it or professionally refute it. But what she shouldn&#8217;t do is attack me and have her husband post that I&#8217;m a drunk. </p>
<p>Perhaps I should have posted my review of the Veneta beauty shop in more public forums, such as search engines and directories. I think I have an even better understanding now of the ethics and mentality involved with this shop. And I definitely have first-hand knowledge of how they deal with complaints.</p>
<p>If I have lied or slandered someone (stating an untruth with intent to harm), please show me where and I will apologize and remove the comment. But if you&#8217;re just embarrassed and lashing out under the anonymity of a computer, then you owe me an apology. </p>
<p>Whether I be a bitch or drunk or whatever, there is nothing in my blog that could compare to the juvenile <a title="vehement or violent denunciation, censure, or reproach" rel="nofollow">invective</a> some of you have posted. You have threatened my physical well-being, and your ISPs are on record. </p>
<p>Apparently, Veneta hosts a contingent who despise the first amendment and long for the days of public beatings and lynchings. Long live the tyranny of the crowd!</p>
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		<title>By: we r talkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>we r talkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you still have no reply and you still have not taken this off the net. I just hope for your sake and mine I NEVER see you around veneta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you still have no reply and you still have not taken this off the net. I just hope for your sake and mine I NEVER see you around veneta.</p>
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		<title>By: Bumbfounded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bumbfounded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just reading about your Salon Experience. And i was just wondering if you ever gave it any thought before you posted such HATE and Bullshit about this young stylest. How would she feel reading this? How will she feel when her freind and family read this? I can understand if you where not happy with your hair, IT&#039;s ONLY COLOR you can chang it AGAIN! The things you have posted on the WORLD WIDE INTERNET. The bullshit people will read.  This is her life, her job, her feelings, her confidince. Does it make you feel better about youself, whom you must hate, to put her down. Does her beauty make you feel SO UGLEY that you need to belittle her. I Was DUMBFOUNDED TO read this!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading about your Salon Experience. And i was just wondering if you ever gave it any thought before you posted such HATE and Bullshit about this young stylest. How would she feel reading this? How will she feel when her freind and family read this? I can understand if you where not happy with your hair, IT&#8217;s ONLY COLOR you can chang it AGAIN! The things you have posted on the WORLD WIDE INTERNET. The bullshit people will read.  This is her life, her job, her feelings, her confidince. Does it make you feel better about youself, whom you must hate, to put her down. Does her beauty make you feel SO UGLEY that you need to belittle her. I Was DUMBFOUNDED TO read this!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that writting this blog made you feel better, because that is all it can accomplish.  It is unfortunate that you choose to vent online and put other people down as a method of coping, rather than try to solve situations productively.  You obviously did not enjoy your time or the results from the salon.  You got your money back and your hair is easily fixable, you never have to go there again.  But, YOU never told them from the start when you weren&#039;t comfortable, even when you were concerned at the time, you didn&#039;t speak up.  You didn&#039;t ask after five minutes when you were worried, you criticized at 15 when you were angry.  You didn&#039;t say why you were unhappy and how it could be helped.  And especially when Leslie had the courtesy to call and try to make things better, you refused to tell her what could have been done differently.  Instead you retreat to the walls of the internet and then spew your angst out somewhere it cannot be resolved.  So, in conclusion, YOUR attitude in a situation is the only one you can control, and the one you are presenting isn&#039;t earning you good treatment and doubtfully ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that writting this blog made you feel better, because that is all it can accomplish.  It is unfortunate that you choose to vent online and put other people down as a method of coping, rather than try to solve situations productively.  You obviously did not enjoy your time or the results from the salon.  You got your money back and your hair is easily fixable, you never have to go there again.  But, YOU never told them from the start when you weren&#8217;t comfortable, even when you were concerned at the time, you didn&#8217;t speak up.  You didn&#8217;t ask after five minutes when you were worried, you criticized at 15 when you were angry.  You didn&#8217;t say why you were unhappy and how it could be helped.  And especially when Leslie had the courtesy to call and try to make things better, you refused to tell her what could have been done differently.  Instead you retreat to the walls of the internet and then spew your angst out somewhere it cannot be resolved.  So, in conclusion, YOUR attitude in a situation is the only one you can control, and the one you are presenting isn&#8217;t earning you good treatment and doubtfully ever will.</p>
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